"LJ909" (lj909)
04/01/2019 at 14:20 • Filed to: Volkswagen
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"LJ909" (lj909)
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As !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! the other day, it starts at $35,850. There are 5 rim levels ranging from the aforementioned $35,850 base SE trim to the $46,210 SEL Premium R-Line with 4Motion awd. Consider that Leatherette is standard on all trims and that you have to get to the SEL Premium trim with 4Motion to be able to finally get leather seating as standard. That trim? Starts at $42,745 before anything.
Consider that its cousin, the A5 Sportback starts just $2,450 than this mid level Areton trim and the price starts to look less appealing . Even worse is that out of all 5 trims, none of option packages (outside of the usual accessories ) save for the top trim SEL Premium R-Line. Its a $500 R-Line Black 20' turbine wheel option. The Areton should be better than the CC it replaces (hopefully reliability ), but I’d take a pass on it.
Ash78, voting early and often
> LJ909
04/01/2019 at 15:32 |
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It almost made sense to sell the CC, at least until the A5 came out. Now I’m not sure how they expect to keep these separated in the US. But if I’m not mistaken, the second you start optioning the A5, you’re well past that $2,500 premium. So in reality it will be just like today: All comparable Audis will be, on average, $10k-$15k higher than their VW cousins. Seems safe.
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LJ909
> Ash78, voting early and often
04/01/2019 at 15:38 |
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Oh yea as soon as you select things like sport seats, wheels etc, you shoot past 50 grand easily. But its still too close if you’re one of the few people that wants no options.
Arrivederci
> LJ909
04/01/2019 at 15:39 |
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The Arteon is a little bigger and more powerful than the A5; however the A5 will have a better AWD system, should you go that route on the VW for comparison sake. I think the Arteon is going to be a tough sell here, most will probably be leased with artificially-high residuals. They might be a nice 2-3 year old used option, especially with VW’s new warranty.
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Ash78, voting early and often
> LJ909
04/01/2019 at 15:39 |
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Difficulty: In America, you’ll never find a base model A5
at a dealer for the exact reason you outlined above.
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LJ909
> Arrivederci
04/01/2019 at 15:55 |
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Yea the A5 Sportback is down 20 horses but the Areton is down 15 lb/ft of torque to the A5. I do foresee the Areton with some kind of lease deal on it by next spring or summer. It’ll most likely be featured in VW’s Sign and Drive events.
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LJ909
> Ash78, voting early and often
04/01/2019 at 16:00 |
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And if you do, there will be 2 or 3 and have at least some kind of options that take it far enough away from the msrp that they aren’t base and will show it’ll make more sense to get the next trim up or 2. It annoyingly happens with every automaker. Try and find a base model Miata and see how frustrating it is.
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> LJ909
04/01/2019 at 16:03 |
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$6 K off that MSRP and we’ll talk. I do like the design though, too bad it’s CP.
Expect to see it cheap on the used market.
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LJ909
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/01/2019 at 16:24 |
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Ya a the design is handsome. I hope its better than the CC though, especially reliability wise.
Svend
> LJ909
04/01/2019 at 16:38 |
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I’m on my second Mk3 Skoda Superb, of which the VW Arteon is heavily similar. the Arteon is a higher price bracket to the Superb, while the A5 is higher again.
Everyone did the same with the Ford Ranger and Ford F150 on price, basing the argument on base prices.
The Arteon and Superb are great spacious daily drivers, give one a go.
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LJ909
> Svend
04/01/2019 at 16:44 |
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It may be a good car, but my problem is that nearly $40 thousand dollars and you cant get leather seating. I’m assuming you’re in the EU, but if you dont know, VW has a history of decontenting their cars for the US market, just compare Passat’ s and you will see what I’m talking about.
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Svend
> LJ909
04/01/2019 at 16:53 |
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Ye’, I’m in the U.K.. Where VW started decontenting Skodas since back in 2014 due to Skoda taking some of it’s sales.
Much of the price in the U.S. is down to how many cars VW needs to brake even based on anticipated sales as crashing testing for approval in the U.S. is crazy. The U.S. makes it so much harder and costlier for access to the North American market.
imadick
> LJ909
04/02/2019 at 08:16 |
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Kinda? In Canuckistan it’s $50k. You can get a Golf R for less than that...